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U City Officials, Residents React to Death of Destinee Clemons

A moment of silence was held Monday at the University City City Council meeting for the 17-year-old killed in a drive-by shooting Thursday.

Shock, grief and disbelief over the drive-by shooting death of Destinee Clemons Thursday in has given way to questions.

Several neighbors, area residents and public officials spoke Monday at the University City City Council meeting about the tragic death of the 17-year-old, who was sitting on her front porch with her sister when she was shot. 

Francie Broaderick was the first to address the council. She opened by saying she appreciated the work of the council and that if her tone turned harsh it was merely because the 24-year resident felt passionately about the issue.

"I'm asking that the death of Destinee Clemons be a wake-up call to us all," she said. "We need to address the two separate worlds of U City—the one north of Olive and the one south of Olive."

Broaderick said the world south of Olive Blvd sent their children to private schools and could worry about bike paths, trolleys and greenways—all issues recently before the council. The world north of Olive was struggling with high dropout rates, unemployment and foreclosures.

"I heard the pop, pop, pop," she said. "This isn't new. My youngest children can name 12 people they went to school with that are in jail or dead." 

Broaderick asked for an increased police presence. She and other residents spoke of a police presence in the area, but thought foot patrols rather than drive-throughs would be more effective.

"I don't expect our officers to be social workers," she said. "I just think we could look at how to do it better."

, a former gang member who now works on violence prevention, told the council it needed to take this situation seriously.

"That could have been my daughter," he said. "She was minutes away from there."

Muhammad asked that the council value the humanity of the Third Ward residents.

"I have faith in you Mayor and members of Council—be good stewards of your distressed vessal that is the 3rd Ward," he said. "If the entire community of responsible adults doesn't act now in five years the University City we know now won't exist." 

 continue to investigate the crime. Police Chief Charles Adams said the department is searching for four suspects. City Manager Lehman Walker told Patch the city is committed to solving the crime and is providing Chief Adams with whatever tools are needed to man the investigation.

Please call the University City Police at 314-725-2211 or Crime Stoppers at 866-371-TIPS, with any information.

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Johnathan R. June 26, 2012 at 05:25 PM
To Francie Broaderick, the citizen that commented last night at the the City Council Mtg. and is quoted in this story as saying "the world south of Olive Blvd sent their children to private schools and could worry about bike paths, trolleys and greenways". I happen to live South of Olive Blvd. and do not send my child to private school, am unemployed and have no say and really no care whatsoever in reference to bike paths, trolleys and greenways. You are blatantly stereotyping everyone who lives South of Olive in UCity. Stereotyping is wrong, but If I were to stereotype you, I would say that you were black, 24 years old with multiple children (given in story) and no higher education level than highschool. If I were to stereotype the shooters in this horrific crime, I would say that they are from North of Olive and have dreadlocks. Take some personal responsibility and stop blaming council and the people South of Olive for this. Stop making babies so young, get an education at a higher level and stop hanging out with people so that your youngest children can name 12 people that they went to school with that are in jail or dead.
Francie Broderick June 26, 2012 at 05:41 PM
ok what did not get reported was that I said I was speaking in generalizations and I was aware of that because of time constraints, actually did not say all people south of olive send kids to private schools but a look at changes in enrollment over the past twenty years will show signficant differences - I do take lots of personal responsibility but one individual acting alone cannot be as effective as systemic changes and larger scale efforts. I have three children, worked all my life, have Masters Degree so bingo wrong stereotype there.
Johnathan R. June 26, 2012 at 05:59 PM
Your 24 years old, three children, Masters Degree and have worked your whole life?? If this is so, kudos to you and get the hell away from the third ward of UCity if so many people in this area/ that your kids know are in jail/ dead. Your educational level fits the generalization/ stereotype of someone from south of Olive. I am just making generalizations though, due lack of time.
Maggie Rotermund June 26, 2012 at 06:20 PM
Ms. Broderick has lived in U City for 24 years. The article did not say she is 24 years old.
Holston Black Jr. June 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Jonathan, your senseless comments echo what is wrong in this country. Your blatant racist diatribe indicates a backwardness to the days before the Civil War, and Seperate But Equal. Ms. Broderick looked Caucasian to me and I attended the council meeting. It doesn't matter what her racial identity is and she has LIVED 24 YEARS in the third ward. By the way I now live in the third ward after living thirty years in the second and I find the people African American and Caucasian as well as Asian much the same!!!! As Ms. Broaderick said this should be a wake up call and she couched her remarks very astutely, in order not to elicit inane comments like yours. Whether you like it are not problems persist and the only way to resolve them; we human beings have to step forward together, without the baggage of Racism and HATRED.
Johnathan R. June 26, 2012 at 11:02 PM
Holston- Can you explain to me exactly where the "racist diatribe" in my commenting is? I simply expressed my dismay with the stereotype that was given by Ms Broderick, in particular the comment in reference to the residents south of Olive sending their kids to private school This is a blatant stereotype and generalization, just as the example I gave stereotyping residents north of Olive, which I also prefaced by saying was wrong. You have proved my point Holston. Ms Broderick is white, and has a masters degree and lives north of Olive in the third ward. You have also proved my point in that people get upset when they are unfairly stereotyped. Stop playing the race card Holston. You are right, it does not matter what Ms Broderick's racial identity is in this issue, nor does me living south of Olive and sending my kids to private school or worrying about bike trails and greenways.
Jacob Piwo June 27, 2012 at 02:23 AM
Holston always plays the race card. Take a look at the interchange he and I had on his blog post where he was recommending that gays and lesbians think twice before adopting because they risk having a child that will be bullied because their parents are gay. In our interchange, he said I assumed he had not traveled as much as me because he was African American...the irony is that I am African American...he assumed I was Caucasian!
Holston Black Jr. June 27, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Jonathan you ask , where is the racism, first of all your use of a partial name is indicative to me of someone afraid to be a man. I am old enough to remember how the kkk hid under sheets as they lynched and raped my people. In many peoples eyes (that haven't lived my life ) this may seem insignificant but I don't care. Normally I wouldn't even respond but I sense something in your latest comment of some humanity. I hope the young lady you ridiculed can forgive you for reading that she was 24 when the article read that she has lived in the third ward for 24 years. You made some derogatory statements which were very demeaning based on your confusion. We adults in U. City must discard our hate and hostility and work together to make our home a better place to live. The children learn from us and if we don't do a competent job,they don't have much of a chance (that's the meaning I got from what Francine has stated so eloquently). Secondly, racism exists when people don't take the time to try and see things from anothers point of view. Things always look differently from the bottom up than the top down you have to decide if you even want to.
Holston Black Jr. June 27, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Jacob, I asked if you ASSUMED I had not traveled because I was African American. I didn't say what your race was, you should reread what I wrote, for many African Americans also ASSUME others don't travel as much as they do. You and Jonathan should carefully read before going off on tangents. We don't have to fight but we can respect that everyone doesn't think as we do, and are entitled to their opinions.
Johnathan R. June 27, 2012 at 03:31 AM
Holston- Again I ask, what part of my post was racist? You did not address the question. As explained from the last post I was clearly showing how stereotyping is wrong and even prefaced the stereotypes by saying so. The person that spoke last night, Ms Broderick is white and apparently has obtained a higher level of education than myself. She fails to meet the stereotype which i cited in my post, just as I fail to meet the stereotype she described at last nights city council meeting. Plain and simple, my point was proven and you even added to this by becoming so angry. You even go as far as saying that "my comments echo what is wrong with this country". I don't know about the country, but I can assure you that I am not ruining University City. The men that are committing these crimes and doing drive bys, caos in the Loop etc. are taking care of this. Poor kid was shot in the head today walking home from school and just to note Holston, most if not all of these crimes were committed by African Americans- all info that i have acquired from local news sources. No stereotyping there, Holston, but Iam sure that you will come back and somehow try to pin this as being racist and tell me that I am the problem. Holston- you discard the hate and hostility it seems you have and stop playing the race card
Johnathan R. June 27, 2012 at 03:47 AM
Holston.- Did you really post on your bloq that gays and lesbians should think twice before adopting for fear that the child may suffer from bullying? Discard your hate and and hostility towards the equal rights of others. Should gays/ lesbians/ LGBT couples just not come out in public for fear of redicule Holston? I hope that you do not really feel this way, especially as an African American that went through what you said you had in regards to racism.
StlTeacher June 27, 2012 at 06:05 AM
I think you have all missed the point here. It doesn't matter if you are black, white, purple, green, or yellow. The point is that a beautiful, intelligent young lady was unjustly murdered. The fact is, St. Louis has a gang activity problem---not just in University City, but in many sections of St. Louis. Stereotypes and arguments aside, action needs to be taken to stop gang acitivity and keep ALL St. Louis citizens safe. That seems to be what Ms. Broaderick was trying to plead to the city council. Please honor the memory of this young woman, and take your arguments and one-sided opinions somewhere else.Thank you.
Johnathan R. June 27, 2012 at 06:58 AM
STL Teacher- It does kind of matter whether you are black, white, purple green or yellow, because the "gang activity problem" that you mention in St. Louis/ University City is all black on black. I am not even sure that any of our local news sources have reported this murder as having anything to do with gang activity, but either way, this is a black on black murder. All of the recent shootings in UCity as well as the problems in the UCity Loop were not committed by white, purple, green or yellow people. What type of action do you suggest to keep all St. Louis citizens safe? Marches don't seem to be working and never have in East St. Louis and North St. Louis. Increased police patrol may help some, but you can't put an officer in every block of UCity 24 hours a day. What action do you suggest? Maybe Ms. Broderick should have been pleading to the specific council members of her ward north of Olive, instead of lambasting community development and stereotyping people south of Olive.
Holston Black Jr. June 27, 2012 at 02:16 PM
Maybe citizens can understand the frustration of trying to penetrate the minds of people like Jonathan. They have closed their minds and wallow in their prejudice and it doesn't matter what race of the others trying to make sense to them. People like him don't want to see the problems resolved, they are comfortable blaming. I gurantee if the councilpersons from North of Olive were Caucasians his tone would change. HOPELESS, HOPELESS, USELESS TO TRY.
Johnathan R. June 27, 2012 at 03:38 PM
Holston- you have yet to answer any of the questions I have asked and your recent post makes little sense. I don't care what color the councilpersons north of Olive are and have the utmost respect for Mr. Price and Mr Sharpe. Why would I not want to see the problems resolved Holston? Kids are being senselessly murdered. All you want to do is sit around and scream racism and anyone that even utters the words "black" or "African American". Again you have yet to point our anything in my posts that is racist and you have failed to address your own bigoted statement that "maybe gays and lesbians should think twice before adopting". Is the what you Christian chuch is teaching you Holston? As you have said in other post, is this the "Chistian" thing to say or feel? You are Hopeless Holston.
Jeff Hales June 27, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Francie... I just want to say that I thought your comments to the Council were incredibly thoughtful and on-point.
Francie Broderick June 28, 2012 at 02:07 AM
I reluctantly re enter this to say I dont think I lambasted anyone, I suggested we look at what is being done in other communities and gave a couple of specific examples and also suggested we use the resources of the two unversities that are our neighbors. There are systems that could be put in place that could help anticipate and address areas where there are clearly problems.
Johnathan R. June 28, 2012 at 04:46 AM
Francie- I did not attend the council meeting and am only going by what was reported through the Patch. Apparently what was reported in the Patch was not correct, because I think that you said in a previous post, that you never said in the council meeting that "all people south of Olive send their children to private schools". Also my inability to read, led me to believe that you were 24 years old. All that being said, I am unaware of the other communities and specific examples you gave. Are these specific examples related to or in accordance with putting an end to senseless acts of crime like Destinee Clemons murder, the shooting of a teen during a basketball game in Heman Park a few weeks ago and the murder of the teen yesterday or are you addressing examples that other communities have put in place to aid people that are struggling with foreclosure, drop out and unemployment? Are we only to going to put these resources forth in "the world north of Olive" only or throughout all of University City?
tammy wade August 26, 2012 at 08:05 PM
As the Aunt of 17yr.old Destinee Clemons it hard for me to beleive that University City has the man power to solve Destinee's murder case,how is it that these 2 hooligans 18&20 are unable to be captured.......My sister moved to U-City two months prior to the senseless murder of her daughter thinking she had moved to a nice neighborhood. It's a sad situation and the ppl of U-City wont even stand up,no rewards have been offered no anything SOME COMMUNITY
Earl Higgins September 04, 2012 at 02:19 PM
Tammy, I am so sorry for your loss, I can not begin to image how terrible it feels. I know nothing can bring your lovely niece back, but I'm hoping you feel more of a sense of closure, now that two suspects are in custody for your niece's murder.

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